The Messy Reality of Shipping Helm 4 with Andrew Block

March 24th, 2026

40 mins 34 secs

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Tabitha sits down with Andrew Block, Distinguished Architect at Red Hat
and maintainer of Helm — the package manager powering Kubernetes
deployments worldwide — to talk about what it really took to ship
Helm 4.

They cover the 12-month journey to a major release, what got left on
the cutting room floor, how the team nearly broke a huge chunk of the
community with one dependency change, and why Andy thinks open source
is one of the most powerful forces for bringing people together —
regardless of what's happening in the world.

They also get into the bigger questions: maintainer burnout, the role
AI is starting to play in open source workflows, and what it means to
build software that outlasts the hype cycle.

If you use Helm — or you care about the humans behind the tools you
depend on — this one's worth your time.

Find Helm on GitHub, or join the community on Kubernetes Slack in

helm-users or #helm-dev. Developer meetings run every Thursday at

12:30 ET.

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For a video version of this podcast, check out https://youtu.be/mVKrrWOpMYM.

The GR-OSS OUT Podcast is produced by Ben Wiley.